tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post5895862616489421949..comments2024-03-13T21:06:16.936-04:00Comments on Olive Tree Genealogy Blog: Ancestry in arbitration over the Drouin CollectionOlive Tree Genealogyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02381110998759242462noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-19739346744166069112011-08-26T13:42:39.354-04:002011-08-26T13:42:39.354-04:00Dear Anonymous - The Drouin Collection is availabl...Dear Anonymous - The Drouin Collection is available on microfilm and is for sale by the Drouin Institute (http://institutdrouin.com/mfilms/) <br /><br />Since you are annoyed with Ancestry.com for making viewers pay for a subscription to USE THEIR INDEX to see the records, you should also be annoyed with the Drouin Institute. <br /><br />I think it is important to remember that Ancestry is not Olive Tree Genealogyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02381110998759242462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-85683590742155441202011-08-26T11:53:14.219-04:002011-08-26T11:53:14.219-04:00The Drouin Collection, which is, after all, a set ...The Drouin Collection, which is, after all, a set of PUBLIC records, should be in the PUBLIC domain, NOT in the hands of the "you've got to pay to see this" corporation Generation Network/Ancestry.com. There is no reason why anyone in the world should have to pay to see entries in this collection, indexed correctly or not. Generation Network/Ancestry.com is determined to buy up Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-18568655023065303472009-09-22T08:38:34.417-04:002009-09-22T08:38:34.417-04:00It's BACK.... It's BACK.... The Drouin Col...It's BACK.... It's BACK.... The Drouin Collection is back up on Ancestry.ca . I guess they must have negotiated their dispute and the good news is the collection is available as of Monday, Sept. 21st!!! Happy searching everyone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-38250254656421349642009-09-20T09:12:37.797-04:002009-09-20T09:12:37.797-04:00My understanding is that the dispute between Droui...My understanding is that the dispute between Drouin and TGN has been resolved and the Quebec vital records will be available on Ancestry.com on Monday, September 20.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-50075400214456737572009-09-17T15:01:08.707-04:002009-09-17T15:01:08.707-04:00I don't think the family search pilot is offer...I don't think the family search pilot is offered anymore now either! So pissed I want a credit from Ancestry.Josh Jenkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06344689000522934732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-22172207543018079912009-09-17T14:47:00.773-04:002009-09-17T14:47:00.773-04:00Maybe Douin Institute should put up it's own s...Maybe Douin Institute should put up it's own search site. I would pay for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-5470687505661728032009-09-17T14:45:02.101-04:002009-09-17T14:45:02.101-04:00Shame on Ancestry.ca all my family seach is out of...Shame on Ancestry.ca all my family seach is out of Quebec. Maybe I will ask for a refund on my account.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-19570224071765565792009-09-14T20:46:59.968-04:002009-09-14T20:46:59.968-04:00Very simple. Due to the tremendous interest in the...Very simple. Due to the tremendous interest in these records, the Institute (in hindsight) recognized that their "selling price" to Ancestry was too low and they looked for a loophole to get out of the contract. It looks like they found one.<br /><br />Perhaps the Newfoundlanders who sold electricity to Quebec at bargain basement prices in 1968 will now attempt to have their case heard Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-70514162792977988612009-09-14T17:13:31.663-04:002009-09-14T17:13:31.663-04:00To Anonymous: You asked "Why did i pay you fo...To Anonymous: You asked "Why did i pay you for this site anyway?"<br /><br />You didn't pay ME for anything. I think you are confused. The Drouin records were on Ancestry, not my site.Olive Tree Genealogyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02381110998759242462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-84383575810234478502009-09-14T14:45:32.276-04:002009-09-14T14:45:32.276-04:00As a french canadian born and raised in Ontario, i...As a french canadian born and raised in Ontario, i am really disappointed in this <br />loss.All of my ancestors from between 1600 and 1900 came from Quebec and from France before that.I have a ton of research left to do, but now my main source of information is gone.Why did i pay you for this site anyway?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-2690034946078705042009-09-11T15:00:53.287-04:002009-09-11T15:00:53.287-04:00The source and citation SHOULD have remained in ou...The source and citation SHOULD have remained in our Ancestry database. Instead, the link and the source and citation were indeed STRIPPED from my research. Contrary to the original story above, there is NO notice. I will not trust Ancestry fully ever again. I ordered software to go back to saving my research myself. I am unhappy, and I want a refund as well. AND I am rightfully pissed at Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-60450735714162311982009-09-10T10:14:35.712-04:002009-09-10T10:14:35.712-04:00As someone referred to previously, The Drouin Coll...As someone referred to previously, The Drouin Collection for Quebec is available without an index at the FamilySearch pilot site at no charge to the user.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-69930125838908213632009-09-07T20:45:25.002-04:002009-09-07T20:45:25.002-04:00This whole situation with Ancestry/Drouin is very ...This whole situation with Ancestry/Drouin is very unfortunate. Until they come up to an agreement, I am using a site with a lot of data (no images) on Quebec marriages... may be of help to some of you. www.yourfolks.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-50785595124316657572009-09-07T18:03:12.062-04:002009-09-07T18:03:12.062-04:00The index, even incomplete, was invaluable. Once ...The index, even incomplete, was invaluable. Once you could connect family with a place, you can look at the parish and run from there. But if you don't know the origins, and it occurred prior to the census data, it is a shot in the dark.<br />Ancestry should have at least warned us, the judge given a grace period....but even then, there would be so many searching at the same time to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-68679011421003939842009-09-03T15:38:34.198-04:002009-09-03T15:38:34.198-04:00Great to understand that now isn't it? Now tha...Great to understand that now isn't it? Now that the images are no longer available, we all have to start over. Unless you actually keyed in things like the parish and godparents names, we will never be able to get that again without starting over. you may not call it stripping my tree, but if I no longer can view the document that I saved to my tree, I call it stripping. Ancestry should have Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-80719451037140833242009-09-03T13:22:06.130-04:002009-09-03T13:22:06.130-04:00To meet the requirements set by the Drouin Institu...To meet the requirements set by the Drouin Institute would require that Ancestry.com set up a special set of extra search fields for use only when working with that data base. Handling the accented characters used in French might also be a problem. Not having the database available on Ancestry.com is a real loss. Searching using the Drouin Institue web site is prohibitively expensive for theAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-35277885144625095572009-09-03T12:54:41.017-04:002009-09-03T12:54:41.017-04:00I want a reimbursement for my subscription as that...I want a reimbursement for my subscription as that was a big part of why I subscribed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-59087988571331608662009-09-03T10:54:18.187-04:002009-09-03T10:54:18.187-04:00Dear Anonymous - Yes it is distressing BUT Ancestr...Dear Anonymous - Yes it is distressing BUT Ancestry did NOT STRIP YOUR TREE. They pulled the database as ordered by the court.<br /><br /> Anyone working in the Family Tree was creating a LINK to the online image(s). They were NOT saving the actual image to their tree. Thus when the database was ordered removed, any links leading to it were no longer going to the image.Olive Tree Genealogyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02381110998759242462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-38265953414464662442009-09-03T09:14:44.046-04:002009-09-03T09:14:44.046-04:00What a pity! I guess now I know why several weeks ...What a pity! I guess now I know why several weeks ago I was "inspired" to spend the entire day searching my granddaughter's Quebec roots and to make copies! It is totally worth the day's wages I gave up (I'm self-employed). I have also used the Acadian version of records a great deal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-43604040608183921122009-09-03T09:06:11.232-04:002009-09-03T09:06:11.232-04:00It's one thing to remove it from future search...It's one thing to remove it from future searches, but Ancestry STRIPPED my tree of all my references, links, etc to the Drouin Collection, including birth records, marriage, etc. They are all GONE. It's not the same as not being able to do more research - this is everything I have done being removed so that I have to do all this research over again. I am so distressed over loosing Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-24892705331566232392009-09-02T23:01:15.620-04:002009-09-02T23:01:15.620-04:00The Quebec records helped me discover over 200 yea...The Quebec records helped me discover over 200 years of my family history, from before 1675 through 1892. And that was just from a quick (but careful) cruise through the records. I still have a lot of blank spaces to fill in and, without access to these records, they will remain blank. Let us hope this gets settled quickly so we can get on with what we all wish to do. I'm even brushing up on David Germainnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-15581937300597586372009-09-02T21:03:52.261-04:002009-09-02T21:03:52.261-04:00I hesitate to admit this but I have NEVER used an ...I hesitate to admit this but I have NEVER used an Index--in fact till this came up I didn't even know of them. I simply looked at the last pages of Parish Records for applicable names. And I found MANY. If the Drouin remains offline, my subscription, too will be downgraded or cancelled.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-83595435424805371602009-09-02T14:24:03.710-04:002009-09-02T14:24:03.710-04:00Having the Quebec Vital and Church Records availab...Having the Quebec Vital and Church Records available, even "poorly indexed," is 100 times better than having them without indexing or waiting for them to be properly indexed. Regardless of the quality of the indexing, I have found all of the records that I wished for. If ancestry waited to properly index these records before making them available, I can imagine that we wouldn't Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-55005939035275123612009-09-02T04:47:01.616-04:002009-09-02T04:47:01.616-04:00As with other people, the main reason for my havin...As with other people, the main reason for my having an Ancestry worldwide subscription was the Drouin. I am British, but my family on my father's side was Canadian - tracing back to the original settlers and then back to France. <br />Loss of this database is a major setback to my research. Especially annoying is the fact that nobody at Ancestry has seen fit to announce the problems with Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8641680.post-71393082756378679352009-09-02T02:49:30.714-04:002009-09-02T02:49:30.714-04:00Whether ancestry did a poor job of indexing or not...Whether ancestry did a poor job of indexing or not at least I found the information. And I found a LOT of good information about mey relatives. Records that I had never seen before. I don't see why they couldn't keep it on ancestry. It certainly was a great, great help to me just the way it was. I could just cry. I didn't print out the originals. I would have printed them out If they Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com