Every year I try to find some items that I think would make terrific Christmas gifts for genealogists. So here is my list for 2018!
1. My number one gift this year is DNA kits. That's right. There are many different companies offering sales and specials on DNA kits but my favourite is still Ancestry.
IN THE USA
AncestryDNA is available in the US for $59 plus shipping. This special ends Dec. 24th
Ancestry Gift Subscriptions is20% off for those in the USA.
IN CANADA
AncestryDNA is available for Canadians for $89 CAD plus shipping.This sale ends at 11:59 PM EST on December 25th.
2. Give the gift of your favourite genealogy book - or one that you know the recipient would love. You can look through a huge list of books about genealogy by various authors on Amazon or you could go to the list of my published genealogy books and choose one! I have genealogy-history books as well as genealogy guides and a genealogy murder mystery for your enjoyment.
3. Fujitsu ScanSnap iX500 Scanner for PC and Mac
I recently bought one of these and I am loving it! It's a wireless
document feeder scanner. I can scan up to 25 items at once and they
appear automatically on my computer in one file (or in Evernote or
Dropbox or many other choices!)
4. Journals, journals, and more journals. Give a beautiful journal for writing pesonal stories and memories. I use Iona Handcrafted Books . Tip: If the checkout won't accept a non-USA order, just email or phone as they do accept international orders.
5. Give a gorgeous family photo album. You don't need an archival quality album
as you are only putting copies of your original photographs into it. Place your scanned and printed photos in the album and then write a description of each photo on the album pages. Write a nice inscription inside the front cover, place the album in a Christmas Gift Bag and you're done!
December 11, 2018
December 10, 2018
Understanding the Border Crossings Canada-USA
Many genealogists have asked me about the online border crossings on Ancestry. Some are confused about when the border crossing records begin. Others are bewildered at finding an ancestor who they know lived in border towns such as Windsor Ontario or neighbouring Detroit Michigan, in the set called St. Alban's (Vermont) Border Crossing Records. Why, they ask, would their ancestor cross at Vermont which would lead directly to Quebec!
These two questions are easily answered.
1. Border crossing records were not kept until 1895.
ALWAYS READ THE DESCRIPTION OF AN ONLINE DATABASE
2. To find out what a database consists of, it is wise to read the description of the database before searching.
For example one border crossing database on Ancestry is called St. Albans (Vermont) but by reading the description of the database, we see that it contains an index of aliens and citizens crossing into the U.S. from Canada via various ports of entry along the U.S.-Canadian border between 1895 and 1960.
From this we learn that it does not mean that everyone found in the database crossed at St. Albans. Researchers should scrutinize the image carefully as it will indicate the port of entry.
BORDER CROSSINGS CANADA TO USA
Ancestry has U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1895-1960 online. This database covers crossing into the U.S. from Canada via various ports of entry along the U.S.-Canadian border between 1895 and 1960. Specifically, this database covers the following ports and years:
Idaho
BORDER CROSSINGS USA TO CANADA
Ancestry also has Border Crossings: From U.S. to Canada, 1908-1935 online. These records consist of border entry lists and Form 30 (individual entry forms).
Canadian Border Entry Ports:
Alberta
British Columbia
Manitoba
Ontario
New Brunswick
Nova Scotia
Quebec
Saskatchewan
Yukon
Maine
Massachusetts
New York
Vermont
These two questions are easily answered.
1. Border crossing records were not kept until 1895.
ALWAYS READ THE DESCRIPTION OF AN ONLINE DATABASE
2. To find out what a database consists of, it is wise to read the description of the database before searching.
For example one border crossing database on Ancestry is called St. Albans (Vermont) but by reading the description of the database, we see that it contains an index of aliens and citizens crossing into the U.S. from Canada via various ports of entry along the U.S.-Canadian border between 1895 and 1960.
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| St. Albans Vermont set of border crossings - note the port of entry of Detroit |
From this we learn that it does not mean that everyone found in the database crossed at St. Albans. Researchers should scrutinize the image carefully as it will indicate the port of entry.
BORDER CROSSINGS CANADA TO USA
Ancestry has U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1895-1960 online. This database covers crossing into the U.S. from Canada via various ports of entry along the U.S.-Canadian border between 1895 and 1960. Specifically, this database covers the following ports and years:
Idaho
- Eastport, 1924-1954
- Porthill, 1923-1954
- Bangor, 1924-1952
- Calais, 1906-1952 (also includes a few arrivals from 1877 to 1905)
- Eastport, Fort Kent, Lubec, and Madawaska, 1906-1952 (also includes some departure records of U.S. citizens)
- Fort Fairfield, 1909-1953 (also includes a few arrivals at Easton, ME, Houlton, ME, Boston, MA, and Buffalo, NY and a few alien departures)
- Houlton, 1906-1952 (also includes some Indian admissions, ca. 1941-ca. 1953; “Records of Registry” documenting aliens’ previous arrivals for which no records could be found; Re-entry permits; persons admitted under the “Rule of Presumption” ; Land border departure records; War brides and their children)
- Jackman, 1909-1953
- Van Buren, 1906-1952
- Vanceboro, 1906-1952 (also includes a few arrivals from 1888 to 1905 and a few arrivals at Halifax, Nova Scotia and St. John, New Brunswick)
- International Falls, Baudette, Duluth, Mineral Center, Pigeon River, Pine Creek, Roseau, and Warroad, 1907-1952 (also includes some departure records of U.S. citizens)
- Noyes, 1917-1929
- Babb, 1928-1956
- Chief Mountain, Cut Bank, Del Bonita, Gateway, Great Falls, and Roosville, 1923-1956
- Sweet Grass, 1917-1954
- Buffalo, Lewiston, Niagara Falls, and Rochester, 1902-1954
- Hogansburg, Malone, Morristown, Nyando, Ogdensburg, Rooseveltown, Waddington, Alexandria Bay, Cape Vincent, Champlain, Clayton, Fort Covington, Moers, Rouses Point, Thousands Island Bridge, and Trout River, 1929-1956
- Northgate and St. John, 1910-1921
- Pembina and Walhalla, 1917-1929
- Portal, 1915-1921
- Newport, 1906-1924
- St. Albans, 1895-1954
- Anacortes, 1924-1953
- Blaine, 1905-1956
- Danville, 1931-1956
- Ferry, 1917-1956
- Laurier and Marcus, 1923-1951
- Lynden, 1923-1952
- Metaline Falls, 1924-1954
- Northport, May 1923-1951
- Oroville, 1918-1954
- Port Angeles, 1929-1952
- Sumas, 1924-1956
BORDER CROSSINGS USA TO CANADA
Ancestry also has Border Crossings: From U.S. to Canada, 1908-1935 online. These records consist of border entry lists and Form 30 (individual entry forms).
Canadian Border Entry Ports:
Alberta
| Coutts |
| Pinhorn |
| Twin Lakes |
| Aldergrove | Kereemeos | Osoyoos | Rossland |
| Anyox | Kingsgate | Pacific Highway | Rykerts |
| Bamfield | Ladner | Paterson | Similkameen |
| Bridesville | Ladysmith | Peardonville | Stewart |
| Carson | Midway | Penticton | Union Bay |
| Cascade | Mission | Phillips | Upper Sumas |
| Chilliwack | Myncaster | Port Simpson | Victoria |
| Douglas | Nanaimo | Powell River | Waneta |
| Grand Forks | Newgate | Prince Rupert | White Pass |
| Gateway | Ocean Falls | Roosville | White Rock |
| Huntingdon |
| Bannerman | Morden |
| Emerson | Mowbray |
| Haskett | Snowflake |
| Gretna | Sprague |
| Amhertsburg | Cutler | Niagara Falls | Prescott |
| Aultsville | Depot Harbour | Ojibwa | Rainy River |
| Bath | Deseronto | Parry Sound | Rockport |
| Belleville | Erie Beach | Picton | Sarnia |
| Blind River | Fort Erie | Pigeon River Bridge | Sault Ste Marie |
| Bridgeburg | Fort Frances | Point Edward | Sombra |
| Brighton | Fort William | Port Arthur | Thessalon |
| Brockville | Gananoque | Port Burwell | Toronto |
| Bruce Mines | Goderich | Port Colborne | Trenton |
| Cobourg | Gore Bay | Port Dalhousie | Walkerville |
| Collingwood | Iroquois | Port Dover | Wallaceburg |
| Cornwall | Kingston | Port Hope | Walpole Island |
| Courtright | Little Current | Port Lambton | Windmill Point |
| Crystal Beach | Morrisburg | Port Stanley | Windsor |
| Wolf Island |
| Andover | Debec Junction | Grand Manan | North Head | St Stephen |
| Aroostook Junction | Edmundston | Green River | Richmond Road/Corner | Upper Mills |
| Centreville | Fair Haven | Letete | St Andrews | Welshpool |
| Connors | Fosterville | McAdam Junction | St Hilaire | Wilsons Beach |
| Clair | Grand Falls | Milltown | St Léonard | Woodstock |
| Clements Port |
| Liverpool |
| Port Hawkesbury |
| Sydney |
| Yarmouth |
| Armstrong | Frelighsburg | Lacolle Junction | Stanhope |
| Athelstan | Georgeville | Magog | Stanstead Junction |
| Beebe Junction | Hemmingford | Mansonville | St Armand |
| Coaticook | Hereford | Megantic | St Johns |
| Comins Mills | Highwater | Noyan Junction | St Regis |
| Dundee | Huntingdon/St Agnes | Paquetteville |
| Big Muddy | North Portal | West Poplar River |
| East Poplar River | Northgate | Willow Creek |
| Marienthal | Radville | Wood Mountain |
| Dawson |
| Forty Mile |
| Portland |
| Boston |
| Charlotte |
| Lewiston |
| Malone |
| Rochester |
| Rouses Point |
| Alburg |
| St Albans |
December 9, 2018
Home District Land Certificates 1787 to 1795
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| H 1140 Edward Strickland Image 235 |
While scrolling through microfilm H 1140 in order to correct Canadiana.org's flawed content description, I came across a set of Land Certificates and other documents from individuals living in what was called the Home District. This consisted of land along Lake Ontario and the Niagara region of Ontario.
Image 215 Index to Names
Image 215, 216 Home District Land Certificates 1787 to 1795. Index of NamesCertificates
These can be viewed by going to film H 1140 and selecting the image numbers shown below for each claimant
- Image 217 Elias Anderson 1795
- Image 218 Patrick Bern born Ireland 1795
- Image 219 Eli Cahoe age 18 born Pennsylvania 1795
- Image 220, 221 George Campbell 1794
- Image 222 Joshua Chamberlain age 63 born USA 1795
- Image 223 Joshua Chamberlain age 18 born New Hampshire 1795
- Image 224 Zekiel Chamberlain age 21 born Boston 1795
- Image 225 Benjamin Davis Long island New York age 46, 1795
- Image 226 Abraham Devans of New York age 33 1795
- Image 227 Isaac Devans of New York age 24 1795
- Image 228 Levi Devans of New York age 20 1795
- Image 229 Joseph Dean age 44 of Pennsylvania 1795
- Image 230 Sam Herron 1794
- Image 231 John McHenry Born Antrim age 39 1795
- Image 232 Patrick McKee age 26 born Ireland 1795
- Image 233 Jacob Phillips born New York age 25 1795
- Image 234 Samuel Street 1794
- Image 235 Edward Strickland born Cumberland England age 34 1795
- Image 236 petition of George Braytons
- Image 237 two miscellaneous names James Hennessey and Andrew Herron 1808
- Image 238, 239 James Hennessey 1808
- Image 240 Andrew Heron 1808
- Image 241 Samuel Leatch1795
- Image 242, 243 Thomas Otway Page
- Image 244 Samuel Stevenson 1816
December 7, 2018
Border Crossings From U.S. to Canada, 1908-1935
Border Crossings From U.S. to Canada, 1908-1935 at Ancestry.comThis database contains records of immigrants crossing into Canada from the United States between 1908 and 1935. These records consist of border entry lists and Form 30 (individual entry forms). Information recorded in these records may include: name of immigratn, port of arrival, date of arrival, age, gender, country of citizenship, birthplace, marital status, and last permanent address.
On average, the border entry lists recorded 10-20 people per page. Form 30 was an individual form and therefore was able to record more significant genealogical information about each individual. Although the use of Form 30 officially ended in 1924, there are some records of this form that date to later years.
The amount of information recorded in these records varies according to form type and year. Form 30 consists of two images – a front and a back side. The majority of the information is recorded on the front side, but there is also important information recorded on the back. Use the previous and next buttons in the image viewer to navigate between these images. The back side may sometimes appear before, instead of after, the front.
This is a terrific addition to their existing Border Crossings: Canadian Border Crossings, 1895-1956 and Detroit Border Crossings and Passenger and Crew Lists, 1905-1957
Form 30ABetween 1919 and 1924 the Department of Immigration and Colonization introduced the use of the Form 30A as the official record of immigration.
Form 30A usually included the following details:
- name of ship;
- date of sailing;
- port and date of arrival;
- name;
- age;
- occupation;
- birthplace;
- race;
- citizenship;
- religion;
- destination; and
- name of the nearest relative in the country from which the immigrant came.
Form 30A, Border Entry Records, 1919-1924 are not indexed at the LAC. To use these records more efficiently, view the list of microfilm numbers and what each one contains
You can also search the INDEX to these records on Ancestry.com
December 5, 2018
Home District Land Claims 1803 & 1804
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| H 1140 Image 253 |
But as mentioned in a previous blog post Heir & Devisee Commission 1797-1854 on Canadiana.org - Listing Errors and a Workaround, the index and description of what is in each film, as provided on Canadiana.org, is incorrect.
I have been going through those digitized records to create a working corrected Finding Aid. You may view the corrected content lists on Olive Tree Genealogy website at Heir & Devisee Commission
While scrolling through microfilm H 1140 in order to correct Canadiana.org's flawed content description, I came across a set of Land Certificates and other documents from individuals living in what was called the Home District. This consisted of land along Lake Ontario and the Niagara region of Ontario.
Continuing on from Home District Land Certificates 1787 to 1795 and An index to Niagara area Loyalists and their Land Certificates here is the start of my list of names of claimants for land in the Home District from 1803-1804. Each name has an image number beside it so that you can easily click through to that image to view the claims and any supporting documents.
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| H 1140 Image 321 |
The following images are the actual certificates, claims and other documents
- Image 254, 255 claim of Robert Isaac dey Gray, 1802
- Image 256 Hannah McBride widow of John
- Image 257, 258 claim number five
- Image 259 William Jones
- Image 260 William Bowkett
- Image 261 William Bokette and Sarah H----- want to marry, 1799.
- Image 262 Joseph Hunt 1802
- Image 263 Joseph Hunt
- Image 264, 265 William Allen 1802
- Image 266 John Everson
- Image 267 Abner Mills
- Image 268 Thomas Berry and John McBride
- Image 269 Thomas Barry and Richard Lawrence
- Image 270–273 Richard Lawrence
- Image 274–275 Richard Beasley for the heirs of Thomas Berry
- Image 276-278 Abner Mills (Miles?) 1803
- Image 279 – 284 David Saban of Whitchurch and Abner Mills or Miles I
- Image 235 Joachim Luran of Markham 1804
- Image 286 Daniel Herrick of Markham and Harry McClary
- Image 287 William Cooper 1803
- Image 288 Isaac Davis 1801
- Image 289–291 Thomas Hamilton 1803
- Image 292–294 William Allen and Isaac Horton
- Image 295 --- Tiffany of Ancastor 1803
- Image 296 George Purvis
- Image 297 Aime Michel Fortier 1803
- Image 298 George Purvis
- Image 299–300 John Reiley
- Image 301 William Weikes 1803
- Image 302 William Emery
- Image 303 Christian Horning of Markham 1803
- Image 304–305 William Weeks
- Image 306–307 Isaac Hollingshead 1802
- Image 308–309 Deed of Benjamin Hale and Elizabeth Murray to Isaac Todd 1804
- Image 310–313 the late Duncan Murray, Lieutenant in 34th Regiment, Lincoln County
- Image 314 Isaac Todd of Montréal and Elizabeth Murray
- Image 315–319 Jean Baptiste Rousseau of Ancastor, Estate and inheritance, 1803
- Image 320 Duncan Cameron 1803
- Image 321–322 Elizabeth Murray daughter of the late Duncan Murray & sister of deceased John Murray, Isabella Murray widow of Duncan Murray, Isaac Todd, Joseph Edwards
- Image 323 Elizabeth Murray
- Image 324 Richard Ferguson of Vaughan Township
- Image 325 William Weeks, Daniel Laughlin
- Image 326 James Crane, 1803
- Image 327–332 Daniel Laughlin
- Image 333 Patrick Boon or Bern of Markham, Wheelwright, 1804
- Image 334–336 William Weeks
- Image 337–338 Jean Baptiste Bouchette to William Church
- Image 339 William Chewitt 1804
- Image 340 Peter McGregor 1803
- Image 341 James McGregor of Markham
December 3, 2018
Don't Let Family Lore Lead You Astray!
Olive
Tree Genealogy had an interesting question from Shannah about her
grandfather. My research findings point out the need to take family lore with a
grain of salt and not accept it as gospel.Here is Shannah's email:
I have been trying to find out where my Grfa., TWISS, William James, had "landed" for over ten years, to no avail, from Cty. Cork, Ireland to New York, USA.. He was a mere 17 year old, at the time.
The story I was told was that it was my Grfa. who had left Cork, Ireland, from Sept. to December of 1887 (I believe these are the months) on the Barque Julia, from Edinburough to Cork and to New York. This particular Barque was a ship of supplies and the Captain was a friend of my Gr-Grpars., TWISS, Francis Edward Day, Sr.. It was my Grfa. who had suggested that he, himself, come out to Canada, first and they allowed it but he must go with someone they knew. It was only a few days' trip and have researched into several ports along the eastern coast to no avail. When he had landed, he had stayed with friends of his parents., (never knew who they were) Francis Edward Day and Ellen THOMPSON, in New York for a while then travelled up into BINBROOK, Wentworth Cty., Ontario, Canada to stay with our cousins/family there while his own parents. arrived through Montreal, Quebec, Canada in the following springtime.
First I made a summary of the important statements in Shannah's email:
1. William James Twiss was born ca 1870 Ireland immigrated to N. America on the ship Julia in 1887
2. William's parents Francis Edward Day & Ellen Twiss sailed to Montreal Quebec in spring of 1888
Making a note of these statements does not mean I accepted them as fact. It was obvious they were family lore passed on through the generations.
After searching on Ancestry.com
in census records to gain a better understanding of the Twiss family
group, their names, ages and residence, I knew that Francis Edward went
by Edward, when he was born, his given year of immigration and that he
was in British Columbia from 1891 census on.
Turning to the Immigration records on Ancestry.com
it did not take long to find Edward, his wife Ellen and 3 daughters sailing from Cobh, Ireland
on the ship Peruvian. The Peruvian made stops at three ports: Baltimore
Maryland, St. John Newfoundland and Halifax Nova Scotia. Beside the
names of Edward and his family was the notation that they were headed to
Victoria (British Columbia) Their arrival date was September 4, 1888.
It is not clear if the family left the ship at St. John or Halifax but I
suggest it was most likely Halifax. From there they could continue their journey to
British Columbia.
This
is a typical example of family stories becoming mixed up over the
years. My suggestion to Shannah for continuing the search for William is
that she extend her year of immigration by 5 years on either side and
not assume the ship name of Julia is correct. She should also look for
William in the 1891 census and all census years after that. The 1901
census provides an immigration year but she should still allow 5 years
on either side of whatever is recorded. Turning to the Immigration records on Ancestry.com
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| TWISS family on Ship Peruvian September 1888 |
Clue for Shannah: In 1891 your grandfather is recorded as James W. Twiss and he is found with his parents and sisters in Victoria B.C. He is mis-indexed on Ancestry.com
December 1, 2018
Free Ships Passenger Lists & Naturalization Records
Visitors to Olive Tree Genealogy
often ask me for a list of all the free ships passenger lists I have
published online. My site is quite large and can take time to
navigate to find the records, so I understand why there can be some confusion.
In hopes this might help genealogists, I've compiled a list of the free passenger lists and naturalization records on my sites.
Missing Friends The Missing Friends Project
is abstracting the names of those who immigrated from UK to America or
Canada and who were inquired about by family in various 19th Century
newspapers.
Passenger Books of J & J Cooke, Shipping Agents sailings from Londonderry Ireland to Quebec, St. John New Brunswick, New Orleans Louisiana and Pennsylvania from 1847 to 1871
Pennsylvania Baggage Lists 1809
New York Almshouse Records 1819 to 1840 contain the names of the ship each person sailed on, plus dates of arrival. Includes arrivals in Canadian ports
Emigrants from England in New York City Almshouse 1818-1830 - 254 names of English immigrants to Canada & USA including the name of the ship they sailed on.
New York Almshouse Records 1855 to 1858 contain the name of the ship and the arrival date and port for each person.
List of those who died while in Staten Island Quarantine May 1849 - Dec. 1850 (not available at this time but coming back online soon)
Names of Emigrants from 1845-1847 from the Records of James Allison, Emigrant Agent at Montreal Quebec Canada
Return of Emigrants Landed at the Port of Kingston Ontario, Canada (1861-1882)
Peter Robinson Settlers sailing 1823 & 1825 Ireland to Canada
English to America 1617-1778 Child Apprentices in America from Christ's Hospital, London England
(not available at this time but coming back online soon)
English Immigrants to USA 1773-1776
Poor Irish to England Includes Ports of Departure & Arrival plus number of years in England or Scotland. Over 1,600 names
(not available at this time but coming back online soon)
Irish Emigration Lists, 1833-1839 Lists of Emigrants Extracted from the Ordnance Survey Memoirs from Counties Londonderry and Antrim
Passenger Lists from the New York Times (Arrivals & Departures)1851-1929
(coming back soon)
New Netherland Ships Passenger Lists Project
Lists of those sailing from The Netherlands to New Netherland (now New
York) 1654-1664 came from the West India Company Account Book and
consist only of names of those who owed for their passage. There is no
published record of those who
paid for passage before leaving. Olive Tree Genealogy has reconstructed
several passenger lists
for these ships using other primary sources.
Naturalization Records
Naturalization Records in the USA & Canada. Includes searchable
Naturalization Records, Declarations of Intent, Certificates of
Citizenship
USA Passport Applications
USA Alien Registrations
USA Oaths of Allegiance
USA Voters Registrations
Canadian Passport Records
In hopes this might help genealogists, I've compiled a list of the free passenger lists and naturalization records on my sites.
(not available at this time but coming back online soon)
Naturalization & Citizenship Records
November 29, 2018
New York Almshouse Records Online
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| House of Refuge, Randall's Island, New York 1853 |
In the early 1800s port cities in the United States bore the burdens of immigration. By the time immigrants arrived from their native country, many were tired, hungry, and poor. Many newly arrived immigrants ended up in the City Almshouse or Poorhouse. This meant the citizens of their new country had to take care of them.
New York City assumed responsibility for its citizens who were destitute, sick, homeless, or otherwise unable to care for themselves. The city maintained an almshouse (sometimes labeled a house of refuge), various hospitals, and a workhouse on Blackwell's Island (Roosevelt Island) to care for the poor. Some were admitted on a voluntary basis, others were sent by the local courts. There are many widows or single women. These women had no families to support them and had no recourse except to ask the city for help for themselves or their children. Abandoned children can also be found in these records.
Almshouse records for New York City exist from 1758 to 1953. Olive Tree Genealogy has an ongoing project to transcribe and publish all New York Almshouse Records that contain immigration information.
Project Number One
The first set of New York Almshouse admittance records is for the years 1782 to 1813.New York Almshouse Records 1782-1813.
The records contain the name of the person, date admitted, age, where from or born, complaint [illness], discharged, died, remarks.
Project Number Two
This set of New York Almshouse Admissions covers the years 1819-1840
These records include Name, Age, Place of birth, Ship Name, Where the person is from, Ship Captain's Name, Date of Bond, Sureties, Date Discharged, Death Date, Remarks, etc. Remarks often include genealogical details
Project Number Three
The third set of Almshouse admission records for New York city is for 1855-1858
It contains the following information: Name, age, country of origin, date
of arrival, arrival port, departure port, name of ship, captain of ship,
married or single, name of someone who knows them, how many times they
have been on the island, and a section for remarks.
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| Page from 1855 Almshouse Records |
Art and Picture Collection, The New York Public Library. "House Of Refuge, Randall'S Island." The New York Public Library Digital Collections. 1853. http://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/510d47e0-d364-a3d9-e040-e00a18064a99
November 27, 2018
How to Obtain Canadian WW2 Military Service Files
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| My Father in WW2 |
Library and Archives Canada holds military service files for those who served after 1918. Their website explanation of who can access what files and how to obtain them is a bit confusing, so I'll share with you what I did to send for the military records of my father's brother, Clarence E. McGinnis. I knew Uncle Clare had been in WW2 as I have several photos of him in uniform. But I never knew where he served, what unit he was in, or what he did during the War.
I wrote a one page letter requesting the complete military service files for [individual's name] who was born [individual's full birth date or estimated year] in [name of city/town plus county and province in Ontario] to parents [names of father and mother].
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| Uncle Clare in WW2 |
I included my uncle's death date and a photograph of his tombstone as proof of death. Interestingly enough they actually returned the photo to me!
That was it. I mailed the letter and photo to
ATIP and Personnel Records Division
Library and Archives Canada
395 Wellington Street
Ottawa, ON K1A 0N4
You can also fax your request to them at this number: 613-947-8456
Your request can be written as a letter or you can print off a blank copy of the Application for Military Service Information form [PDF 663 KB] which should be filled in, signed and sent by mail or fax.
Using the ATIP Online Request service is another way to submit requests.
After a wait of about 5 months a very large package arrived with Uncle Clare's complete military file. I estimate there are about 80 or more pages. The wait was not unexpected as it is made clear on the Library & Archives Canada website that they are backlogged and requests can take up to 6 months to fill.
There was a lot of interesting information in the military file for Uncle Clare - such as details of his work history prior to enlisting. It include what he was paid! I wish my dad's files had been as complete.
I am really pleased to have some more details to add to my knowledge of my uncle. I knew him quite well but he never spoke of his military service or his early years. I suppose I was too young for him to think I'd be interested.
Plus he was quite old-fashioned regarding males vs females and since I was a female he'd be less likely to talk to me about what he would consider "man stuff"
But I'm really enjoying reading through his files to find out where he went during the war (to England and France) and what he saw and did during that difficult time.
Using the ATIP Online Request service is another way to submit requests.
After a wait of about 5 months a very large package arrived with Uncle Clare's complete military file. I estimate there are about 80 or more pages. The wait was not unexpected as it is made clear on the Library & Archives Canada website that they are backlogged and requests can take up to 6 months to fill.
There was a lot of interesting information in the military file for Uncle Clare - such as details of his work history prior to enlisting. It include what he was paid! I wish my dad's files had been as complete.
I am really pleased to have some more details to add to my knowledge of my uncle. I knew him quite well but he never spoke of his military service or his early years. I suppose I was too young for him to think I'd be interested.
Plus he was quite old-fashioned regarding males vs females and since I was a female he'd be less likely to talk to me about what he would consider "man stuff"
But I'm really enjoying reading through his files to find out where he went during the war (to England and France) and what he saw and did during that difficult time.
For WW1
personnel files you will be able to view these online very soon. Library
and Archives Canada is busy scanning and uploading the full files to
the online CEF Searchable database.
November 25, 2018
Part 2: Breaking Down That Brick Wall
Part 1 published on November 23 introduced the 30 year search for a county of origin for my Irish McGinnis Family. We continue with Part 2
Breaking Down a Brick Wall
Still unable to find a death date for the one remaining brother (Hugh) who was born in Ireland, I set my research aside. Then the breakthrough - two amazing women who have written several history books, spent many years going through newspapers to gather obituaries for people who had lived in Puslinch Township. Doesn't sound impressive? It is. "A Celebration of Lives: Obituaries of Puslinch Township Wellington County Ontario" was published recently as a two-volume set consisting of 1,408 pages. There are over 6,500 obituaries. It's impressive.
An Obituary Reveals a County
It had limited printing but I managed to get the last copy. Of course I skipped right to the "M" pages and unbelievably there it was - an obituary for my Hugh McGinnis of Hespeler. His obit stated he was born in Co. Down Ireland. I know an obituary is only as reliable as the person giving the information but it is another piece of evidence. I wish I could find his death registration but still no luck, even with now knowing the month and year and location of his death.
This morning I scrolled through every image on Ancestry.com for a period of 12 months from his death with no success. His death is not there. But I have the obituary and that thrills me! It adds to the growing weight of clues.
Potsdam New York Gives More Clues
Second wonderful item - Hugh's wife was born in USA circa 1810. Due to finding other bits and pieces of clues, including finding her parents' and siblings' names, I found a record in 1830 in Potsdam New York which I was pretty sure was her family. Pretty sure, but not positively proven, so not good enough for me.
Did I mention that one of Hugh's brothers married one of his wife's sisters? The finding of the Potsdam record was important because I know that Hugh (and probably his siblings) was in America before 1831. This would give me more locations for searching if my theory about Potsdam was correct.
And there it was in my new-found obituary book. The obit for Hugh's wife stating that she was born in Potsdam New York in 1810!
A Theory is Proven
I love it when a theory becomes fact. Proven fact. I don't care how long it takes, I refuse to give up! And the moral of my story is that you should never give up either. You never know when that little tidbit of information will fall into your hands. Maybe it wasn't available when you first began your research. New data is being found and transcribed all the time. Who knows, maybe the piece you need is waiting for you right now.
Review Your Older Research Notes
So stop reading this blog post and go back and look over your earlier research! Is there a clue there? Something you couldn't find 10 or 15 or more years ago, but maybe now you can? What are you waiting for???!!
Breaking Down a Brick Wall
Still unable to find a death date for the one remaining brother (Hugh) who was born in Ireland, I set my research aside. Then the breakthrough - two amazing women who have written several history books, spent many years going through newspapers to gather obituaries for people who had lived in Puslinch Township. Doesn't sound impressive? It is. "A Celebration of Lives: Obituaries of Puslinch Township Wellington County Ontario" was published recently as a two-volume set consisting of 1,408 pages. There are over 6,500 obituaries. It's impressive.
An Obituary Reveals a County
It had limited printing but I managed to get the last copy. Of course I skipped right to the "M" pages and unbelievably there it was - an obituary for my Hugh McGinnis of Hespeler. His obit stated he was born in Co. Down Ireland. I know an obituary is only as reliable as the person giving the information but it is another piece of evidence. I wish I could find his death registration but still no luck, even with now knowing the month and year and location of his death.
This morning I scrolled through every image on Ancestry.com for a period of 12 months from his death with no success. His death is not there. But I have the obituary and that thrills me! It adds to the growing weight of clues.
Potsdam New York Gives More Clues
Second wonderful item - Hugh's wife was born in USA circa 1810. Due to finding other bits and pieces of clues, including finding her parents' and siblings' names, I found a record in 1830 in Potsdam New York which I was pretty sure was her family. Pretty sure, but not positively proven, so not good enough for me.
Did I mention that one of Hugh's brothers married one of his wife's sisters? The finding of the Potsdam record was important because I know that Hugh (and probably his siblings) was in America before 1831. This would give me more locations for searching if my theory about Potsdam was correct.
And there it was in my new-found obituary book. The obit for Hugh's wife stating that she was born in Potsdam New York in 1810!
A Theory is Proven
I love it when a theory becomes fact. Proven fact. I don't care how long it takes, I refuse to give up! And the moral of my story is that you should never give up either. You never know when that little tidbit of information will fall into your hands. Maybe it wasn't available when you first began your research. New data is being found and transcribed all the time. Who knows, maybe the piece you need is waiting for you right now.
Review Your Older Research Notes
So stop reading this blog post and go back and look over your earlier research! Is there a clue there? Something you couldn't find 10 or 15 or more years ago, but maybe now you can? What are you waiting for???!!
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